Creativity, Reconciliation, and Flourishing with Mia Chung and David Bailey
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Our Summer 2025 series, Beside Still Waters, focuses on the places where creativity brings life into a world fatigued by brokenness and division. From jazz to Jane Austen and in between, this season we’ll focus on the ways literature and the arts can refresh and challenge our inner lives—and connect us with the Creator of the good, the true, and the beautiful.
Guided by theologian and musician David Bailey and concert pianist and chamber musician Mia Chung, this episode explores the concept that music involves mutual support, balance, and give and take among musicians to create a cohesive experience.
And we reflect on how Christian communities can apply these principles of collaboration and harmony to create faith communities that are transformative:
“To the extent that the arts can actually cultivate that practice of incorporating the right hemisphere and in communication with the left, it’s always together, you know, they’re, complimentary. I think we can benefit each other in terms of community formation, but even benefit our own intellectual lives and the amount of joy we experience living in this world.” – Mia Chung
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This podcast is an edited version of our Online Conversation recorded in June, 2024. You can access the full conversation with transcript here.
Learn more about Mia Chung and David Bailey.
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Episode Outline
00:34 Exploring Music and Christian Community
01:36 Cherie Harder on Cultural Challenges
02:55 Welcoming David Bailey and Mia Chung
04:41 David Bailey’s Musical Journey
06:56 Mia Chung’s Musical Formation
10:44 The Role of Arts in Reconciliation
13:19 The Power of Music in Community Building
23:17 Reintegration and Reconciliation at MIT
28:52 Challenges and Practices for Reconciliation
30:10 Digital Discipleship and Secular Influence
30:44 The Importance of Fasting and Listening
34:18 Post-COVID Convening and Empathetic Listening
37:25 The Power of Music and Emotional Expression
40:04 Silence and Contemplative Practices
44:43 Artistic Collaboration and Reconciliation
51:19 Final Thoughts and Encouragement
Authors and books mentioned in the conversation:
Arrabon: Learning Reconciliation Through Community & Worship Music, by David Bailey
Related Trinity Forum Readings:
Hannah and Nathan, by Wendell Berry
Painting as a Pastime, by Winston Churchill
The Four Quartets, by TS Eliot
Letters from Vincent Van Gogh
Spirit and Imagination, selections from Samuel Taylor Coleridge
Why Work?, by Dorothy Sayers
The Loss of the University, featuring the works of Wendell Berry and Jacques Maritain
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